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Re: Boldly Gone Posting and Discussion

Postby cmdrajd » Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:18 pm

It seems like we just started this run, but we've already come to the end. Amazing how a couple of months can go by in the blink of an eye, isn't it? Why, just yesterday I was...

Okay. Before I get all misty-eyed here, I'll just get to the preview:

Captain Reginald Bain did exactly what a captain should do. He overcame those holding his ship and crew prisoner, and he got back home. So how come it's looking like he made a huge mistake? Find out as the Dillon Consortium tries to collect on some "Contractual Obligations."


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Re: Boldly Gone Posting and Discussion

Postby Ruler J » Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:55 pm

What an end! (to this season anyway). You actually had me going there for a bit- thought Marsden would be left behind, (you have written off a character before, nice reminder of Arroyo), or Tovar would do the silly romantic thing and leave the ship to get himself trapped with her. Lucky thing Tovar's parents were around.
I loved their explanation of leaving Tovar behind, though I do still feel like giving them a good slap. Some people just aren't mature enough to be parents...I should probably stop there before I rant on. My girlfriend teaches in a primary school, with students from very afluent families, and the stories I hear from her...well, there's quite a few there who, like Tanta and Jimsok, need a bit of sense and maturity beaten into them.
Other parts that stayed with me- Prosak's little bit hoping that, with the Romulans gone, it'd be like the good old times with Bain. She's no longer first officer, they tried to kill her, I'm just wondering how long ebfore she flips out and does something crazy to the Romulans.
And speaking of the Romulans, I think Nortal is now my second favourite all time character (after Bain). How can you not love somebody who shouts "Your massive mechanical menace cows no one!"
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Re: Boldly Gone Posting and Discussion

Postby cmdrajd » Thu Oct 07, 2010 4:48 pm

Comments on "Contractual Obligations"

So we have come to the end of another run, but, since I covered a lot of the elements of this storyline in the comments for the previous two stories, I don't know how much I really have to say here.

As you would expect after two stories of mess making, this one was about cleaning things up. More than that, though, it may be the first time that Bain has ever questioned himself or his methods. He took action without all of the facts and very nearly cost the Multeks their civilization. Then fixing that mistake nearly cost his adopted son the woman he loves. If this were a drama series, one of those things probably would have come to pass, forcing Bain into some deep soul searching that possibly would have changed him forever. Fortunately we're writing comedy here, so you get the tension with only a fraction of the angst.

I've noticed, though, that the idea of family not necessarily being about biology has been a recurring theme in the Traks that I've written. In Original Traks, Dillon's parents basically used him as a lab rat. In Waystation, Beck had her sister issues. And in Boldly, Tovar's relationship with the Bains has been one of the core elements of the series. If I were to attempt to psychoanalyze myself and figure out why I keep coming back this idea, I would have to say it's probably due to the fact that my own family is so spread out. I saw either set of grandparents maybe once a year for a couple of days due to distance, and my aunts and uncles are all over the US. Now my brother is literally on the opposite of the country from me. I think because of that, I've tended to have deeper emotional connections with my friends. They are in many ways my family.

Moving from there to more ridiculous matters, we come to the giant robot. Why did the casino turn into a giant robot? Because it made me laugh. With all that was going on between Tovar, his parents, Marsden, and the Bains, we needed some silly. A giant Bradley Dillon robot fit the bill. And now the Multeks have a giant robo-Bradley head floating around their space like that thing out of the old Transformers movie (the animated one. Not that stuff Michael Bay has been putting out. That's a whole other rant). In any case, I thought it would be fun for Bain to take on a giant robot. And then I decided it would be more fun for him to really want to take on the robot and not get the chance.

As I think I said in the comments to the first story of this three-parter, this storyline has been floating around for a while. I think I had the basics of it figured out back in series six or seven, which, when you take into account the five year gap between eight and nine, is a long time. Even then I knew exactly what the last line was. And then we changed it. Tovar and Marsden getting married was something I came up with shortly after I finished the original version of the story, so I wrote a second ending where that was included. After Anthony and I talked about it and what it would mean for the series, we decided to go ahead and get them hitched. It made for an upbeat ending to the run. In case anyone is curious, there was never a thought of ending this one with a cliffhanger.

So that's the run. We hope you enjoyed it, and we'll be back with Series Ten...at some point. Hopefully next year. I'm not about to start making promises, though.
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Re: Boldly Gone Posting and Discussion

Postby Captain B » Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:39 pm

Obviously real life has interloped quite a bit on my part as I haven't posted on the forum in a while.

*reads Alan's story comments* Yup, that about covers it!

This was a very interesting run for Boldly, and felt largely...disjointed for me. This is probably the least I've been involved in a story run for Boldly so it's definitely fitting Alan give most of the comments. As Alan mentioned, I wrote much of Story #1, then just stopped. I didn't have a clear idea where to go with it, and Alan graciously picked it up. Then we sort of split Story #2.

Other than writing a few paragraphs of Story #3 and helping with the plotting of that one, that was about it for me. The storyline with Tovar's parents was completely Alan's invention, and I love what he did with it. There was definitely some closure needed there, and combining that with figuring out what happened with the Multeks was simplicity itself. Well, not quite simplicity, it actually got downright messy, but that's what makes this stuff funn.

As for the earlier stories, I did enjoy getting to much around with the Breen one more time and continue the adversarial relationship with the Kirk hologram. It also felt good to abuse Selex a little bit. Let's face it, he deserved it.

I'm glad Alan talked about the writing process. It's interesting to have a shared series. There's a lot that Alan and I have in common in terms of writing styles, but there are also some stark differences, and I like to think Boldly somehow weaves those together. In the early days of Traks, Alan and I took turns dipping in to each other's worlds. I wrote "Starfleet Red" for the original series, and "Close to Home" for Waystation, and he wrote "Cat-Astrophe" and "Alternative Programming" for Vexed. Then Alan pitched in a LOT with both plotting and writing some sections of the book "Out of Time." That book would still be incomplete (15 years later) if not for Alan's helping me sort out a million disparate plot threads.

But the first real joint writing effort (as I can recall) was the Vexed Year 4 story "Double or Nothing." There is a completely different version of this story out there that I had actually finished, but was not at all happy with. It had to do with Ardek and Romulan malfeasance, and wasn't particularly funny, and overly plot-heavy. So one day Alan came by and we started writing, almost from scratch, a completely new story, involving Ardek and a casino, and a malfunctioning android, Kitty Larkin. To this day this is still one of my favorite Traks stories.

What was fun about it was that we literally wrote the thing in more or less one sitting, and took turns writing.

I think, but could be wrong (man that was a lot of years ago...) but that collaboration (among others) gave way to the idea that we could write a whole series together. And it has been great fun since.

In terms of what comes next for Boldly, Alan's actually stopping by today and I think we will spend a bit of time on the plotting. We've got some rough ideas already and I'd like to say the next series will come out fairly quickly, But, like Alan, I won't make promises (cause we've been down that road before :) )

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